12 Comments
Aug 27, 2023Liked by Jillian Page, Fred

In answer to whether a textile hiker thinks about clothes while hiking, I know I do when I’m hiking with clothes on - I’m all the time wishing I could take them off and how they’re sweaty and sticking to me!!

Expand full comment

A beautifully detailed description of an exciting brush land hike.

Well done on both counts,

I think that zen state you look to achieve

on your hikes can come to you naked or clothed while you are “engaged” in anything you’re doing.

It’s natural.

Expand full comment
Aug 26, 2023Liked by Jillian Page, Fred

Wonderful account of your freehiking. The photos were excellent That area looks ripe for wandering around. Sorry to hear about your reaction to the PRP injection. My gf had a PRP injection for her inflamed hip. It worked wonders though one has to wonder if the hip would have gotten better on its own.

Expand full comment
Aug 27, 2023Liked by Jillian Page, Fred

The images, the description & the video in the article are so realistic that I have the feeling as if I am on the trail with you. I really would like to appreciate your courage to have a trail in such a lonely, remote & very vast place..

Best wishes for your passion & future trails..

Expand full comment
Aug 26, 2023Liked by Jillian Page, Fred

Love it, Fred!

Hey, I’ve got a question for you. So I was free hiking in an area that I like to frequent that has little traffic. Out & back trail. No cars at the trailhead so I hiked in boldly with my clothes in my backpack. On the way back, I was a little more concerned that I might run into someone. Got my clothes out, but instead of putting them on I draped my shirt across my backpack’s waist belt so it hung down and covered my jiggly bits. Nothing in back. Sort of like a loincloth. In theory it should be legal because for it to be indecency you have to expose your privates. Kinda glad I did because a trail runner came up from behind me and wasn’t expecting it. Scared the beejeebers out of me. Anyway, do you have any thoughts about hiking with something like a loincloth when you’re not 100% sure you’re alone? Thanks.

Expand full comment
author

You can't zero out the chance of an unexpected encounter. I have one about once a year. Usually I notice them long before they get to me. People are noisy, not really paying attention to their surroundings and often wearing bright clothing. At least with a runner you might hear the thump of their feet. Cyclists are silent and always traveling much faster than is safe. Dog and I almost got run off a cliff side trail by one once.

Maybe there's 2nd entrance you don't know about or they went cross country to get to the trail or someone dropped them off and will pick them up. "I didn't think anyone was out here." ought to be a reasonable thing to say as long as it is true.

You could tuck a bandana into your waist belt for the same effect. The laws are different across the country. If they have one, many places include covering female nipples and a certain minimum coverage of your butt in the indecent exposure statute in order to make mooning, g-strings and many thongs technically illegal.

I am lucky that in California there is no state law against simple nudity, you have to engage in lewd conduct. Cities and counties and agencies (Parks and Rec is most common) can pass ordinances and regulations but those only amount to a small fine. It pays to search your state/county ordinances for nude, nudity and related terms. This hike was in Ventura County where there is no countywide ordinance.

I know one guy who carries a Velcro wrap that goes on quickly. I use my hat. Not because I don't want to be seen but just to ease the concern of anyone I meet. Usually they are cool about it and the hat goes back on my head. Chat ensues. But there are individuals who might freak out.

Expand full comment
Aug 30, 2023Liked by Jillian Page, Fred

"Maybe there's 2nd entrance you don't know about ...." No, there's no second entrance, but the out-and-back trail is not strictly a line between point A and point B and back. You go in for 3/4 mile and then the trail turns into a 2 mile loop. From above it looks like a balloon on a string. At the top of the balloon there's a lookout where you can just see the parking lot 2 miles away. By the way, the most of the trail has tall grasses on either side, taller than waist high. And it twists and turns a lot through brush and trees so there's only a few places where you can see further than 100 feet down the trail.

As I said, I was confident going in because there were no other cars in the parking lot. When I got to the lookout, it looked as though there was a second car in the parking lot, so I knew I *might* run into someone and I thought I would run into them coming the other direction. [At this point, out of caution I should have put my pants on, but I was over-confident of my ability to detect hikers coming from the other direction.] I got my clothes out of the backpack and kept them close so I could don them quickly. I kept my eyes and ears open. I draped my shirt over my backpack waist strap to conceal my manhood just in case. When I was about halfway down one side of the balloon, the trail runner guy came up behind me suddenly and I hadn't heard him coming. (trails are sandy, so footprints are not loud) He had run the same route as I: up the string and around the balloon in the same direction. He would have startled me even if I had been dressed. I might have startled him, too. He just kept going and was soon gone. I did not get dressed, but kept hiking the way I was to show I wasn't doing anything I was ashamed of.

In my state, simple public indecency is a petty crime. It prohibits a "knowing exposure of the person's genitals to the view of a person under circumstances which such conduct is likely to cause affront or alarm." It is not illegal to expose your breasts or buttocks unless you are doing it in a lewd manner. I don't want to offend or alarm anyone, but there's no crime in offending or alarming people so long as they can't see your genitals. That is why I was pondering about some sort or loincloth or other barrier shielding my jiggly bits from view.

On a final note, I have amended my freehiking guidelines to take into account the possibility of trail runners. I keep up a pretty good pace, so I didn't worry much about hikers catching me from behind, but I'll need to temper my confidence of going in when there's no other cars at the trailhead with the possibility of the runners. ;-)

Expand full comment
author

Yeah. I see things daily hat ought to affront and alarm any sane person that are perfectly legal and even encouraged.

I've heard that type of trail referred to as a "lolipop," as opposed to a thru hike, an in-and-out or a loop. I grew up in Michigan where I had to be extra careful of trail selection. Fortunately I lived so remotely most places I went could go years without seeing anyone outside of a hunting season. Freehiking in a hunting season is taking your life in your hands.

Expand full comment
Aug 26, 2023Liked by Jillian Page, Fred

Super Fred...I envy you!!!!

Expand full comment

If you havent recovered those video files yet Recuva is free, quite old but can work well. Restoration is similarly old and might not work on Win 11, its free though. Puran File Recovery is also free.

Stellar Data Recovery Free Edition offers up to 1GB of recovery I believe, or there is a paid for version that is unlimited.

There is a ton of undelete/recovery software/apps out there. Paid for ones by AOMEI and EaseUS are often found on software deal sites for free. Its worth trying several as some work better on different OSs, and devices. Microsoft have a command line based one if you're OK with command line work - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/recover-lost-files-on-windows-10-61f5b28a-f5b8-3cc2-0f8e-a63cb4e1d4c4. Another command line based tool that is free is PhotoRec.

As for the report; it drew me in as yours usually do with the detail and illustrative photos, I can almost smell the heat and dust.

Expand full comment
author

I recovered everything except a couple of long videos. The video I recovered is short and I put it in the post.

Expand full comment

Rugged country but a great looking hiking area. Also love that you pointed out some of the hazards of hiking with insects and animals, be it nude or clothed they are a hazard and one should always be aware. Beautiful foliage pics.

Expand full comment