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Freeman Noone's avatar

My problem with NaturismRE is that it is set up as a proprietary enterprise, claiming its concepts to be its own intellectual property when, in fact, all of the concepts are derived from longstanding naturist traditions. All that is new is that it breaks the concepts down into 11 levels. Categorization has its benefits, but trying to claim the underlying concepts as proprietary and threatening legal action to anyone who uses those concepts without permission is disturbing.

Most people blend nudism, naturism, concern for the environment, and diet, but, as you say, have to take into consideration their specific locations and preferences. It really isn't necessary to draw strict lines.

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Jillian Page's avatar

To be honest, I didn't explore the NaturismRE site too deeply, so thank you for pointing out some of its issues. I was more interested in the naturism vs. nudism angle, which has been discussed many times on many sites.

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Nick Harding's avatar

I agree with this, categorising the various elements that they feel make up the NaturismRE lifestyle is rather like labeling ourselves, or others, as nudists/naturists/naked people etc. Some of us are happy to be one or more of them, some of us dismiss them all.

As for the main post; I took on the term nudist from the enlightened people who introduced me to social nudity as they used it to describe themselves, I want to be nude anywhere I can be. But, I really appreciate being naturally naked in natural places as naturism is commonly described. I'm not fussed as to what I get called due to being naked, mostly, sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me. Its more important to be naked than worry about labels.

Added to that I am very aware of this planets environment being under very serious threat. The only meat that I eat is fish, much of which is landed 15 minutes walk away.

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Caroline Osella's avatar

Yes, or to make division. The attempt to own and delimit, almost as a brand, is disturbing, you're right.

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The Nudist Archive's avatar

I consider myself to be at one and the same time a nudist, a naturist, and an environmentalist. All have deep childhood roots. All are different from one another, yet have common elements.

As an environmentalist, I try to protect the natural elements of land, water and air, to the best of my abilities, time and finances.

As a naturist, I am clothing free when in close contact with those elements of land, water and air. I believe that my naturism possess a significant spiritual element by allowing me a close and continuing intimate relationship with my Creator. I am nude in my environment, whether indoors or outdoors. I neither need nor require any priest or mediator between myself and my Creator. Our communication is direct and personal. Prayer for things and outcomes is non-existent. Rather, prayer is a means of giving thanks and opening up one’s self to enlightenment.

As a nudist, further defined as ‘social’ nudist, I am nude in the company of others so inclined. Being nude with others allows a greater intimacy and ability to communicate and interact without artificial barriers.

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Escape to Freedom's avatar

I have become quite bored with different organisations trying to define and categorise what being clothes free is and what it's associations are. My wife and I have been practicing clothes free recreation and enjoying social nudity for many years, and while we typically describe ourselves as naturists, we do not assign any specific meaning to the word. All we know is that when it is warm and sunny, it is generally much more enjoyable to be naked. We both care deeply about the environment, and people, but frankly that has nothing to with our enjoyment of being nude.

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Larry's avatar

Thank You for your post. I lean toward the naturist side. Not perfect as some may claim, but I feel very comfortable and as one with nature when naked hiking.

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Caroline Osella's avatar

Thanks for this. Clarifies some of the differences I observe in different spaces.

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Peter Stokes's avatar

Naturism and nudity have both been around longer than NaturismRE - I don’t think they’ll get very far trying to take ownership of the concept.

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