I’m frequently amazed - and do disappointed - how much newspaper “journalism” is just some no-hoper trawling through Facebook and Reddit and turning other people’s observations into “news”. And all without the least attempt to expand or follow-up.
A recent one in the UK red top Daily Mirror waxed lyrical about two men, new to the neighbourhood, who mowed their lawns naked. Only the Reddit handles were used, no location was specified but the spelling of “neighborhood” gave away it wasn’t a UK story.
It’s a sad commentary on today’s media that they think repeating unchecked stories from social media qualifies as “news”. But as the old saying goes, we get the newspapers we deserve.
In this litigious, hyper-sensitive world, I think it's poor judgement to answer the door naked outside of a nudist-friendly environment like a resort or a naturist zone like Cap d'Agde. If I were a delivery person, even though I am a lifelong nudist, I would be highly suspicious of the nude person's motives in being nude in what I would consider an inappropriate situation. Come on, show some common sense and some courtesy. Throwing on something to answer the door is not a hardship or even an inconvenience. What in the world are you trying to accomplish? Pick your battles - this is not worth it.
I agree with you. There is a big difference in expecting someone to show up at your door, and you appear nude, or not expecting someone to show up at your door and you appear nude. If I'm expecting a delivery, I'm properly attired. But that surprise knock on the door, I may be in a semi-dressed state, not on purpose, more often than not, I'm nude at home. Do I have to keep clothing near my door just in case someone knocks on my door? In today's world, I better.
At age 66, I really don't care if a drone snaps a photo of me and it gets published in a tabloid. But I'm self-employed, don't have to worry about a corporate giant finding out I like being clothesfree. And in a sane world, no one would have to worry. But that's not the world we live in. Yet.
I'm with you on that. A young nudie in a textile culture might not want nudes of them posted where friends family and colleagues might see. People have lost jobs and been sexually harassed over this sort of thing. Nudies often don't have a choice over living in shame based communities.
As a lifelong nudist I always have a "Shower Wrap" with velcro closure in case I need to answer the front door. I don't want people angry at me for being a nudist, I want them to at least accept it and by not forcing it on people I am more likely to achieve that
Regarding the well written May open forum, Holding back comment and reserving judgement until all details are known is the wisest course.
But in any case, I think that anyone regardless of gender, or non gender, who wilfully throws themselves in front of another in a situation that knowingly, very well may put that person I’ll at ease is bullying them and being taking advantage.
The action has no relation to naturalism nor to nudity it’s just some ignorant, rude, selfish, thoughtless brute taking advantage.
Let’s just turn our collective head’s, ignore them and move on……..
Sometimes being excessively militant hurts more than it helps.
This isn't like the WNBR where there's lots of people around and space for separation and you *expect* naked people. She would have been alone and on his doorstep and easily taken advantage of. She's NOT a nudist and cannot be expected to think like one. Probably defines close proximity with a nude man as a sexual situation. This incident showed a lack of empathy and an excess of narcissism on his part.
I think DoorDash is out of line too. People should not be required to work in situations they find fearful or objectionable. Hand the delivery off to someone who doesn't care.
Nudism did not "take a hit" because this is not nudism, unless everyone on the planet becomes a nudist simply by not wearing clothes at any given moment.
Both of the leading stories rest on the act of seeing. The Door Dash driver did not want to see a nude Human. The drone is "seeing" on behalf of its pilot. Why have we allowed the actions of others (seeing) to govern how we choose to dress? They choose where to look, so if they don't like what they see they can look elsewhere or grow a spine and realize that there is no harm in simply seeing a nude body. What harm will come to them from seeing a nude Human body?
It is how we act, how we behave that matters. If the guy answers the door nude and makes sexual advances toward the delivery driver, *THAT* is a problem, but that's between those two; it does not haul in all nudist and naturist organizations around the world, that's sophistry. He could just as easily have been fully clothed with his genitals hanging out his zipper--would that impugn the entire clothing industry??
I don't see any value in doing things I know will generate negative feelings in other people.
I may like death metal music. There's nothing inherently wrong with death metal music but I know people who dislike it. Why they dislike it or if it is rational to dislike it does not matter. I'll wear headphones or crank the volume way down rather than irritate the people I meet with music they might not like. That's the functional equivalent to wearing a towel. I'm not hiding anything, I'm being considerate of their feelings. If I learn it doesn't bother them, I'll let the music rip.
There may be other times and places where I would go naked and not care who it bothers. It just won't be in such close proximity. I suspect the woman in question would not freak out so much about seeing a naked guy at a distance and where she could avoid contact.
Wishing you too a Happy May.. Such incidents impacts naturism lifestyle in negative way. As you have said rightly the people who intends to embrace this awesome lifestyle may not opt for it..
I’m frequently amazed - and do disappointed - how much newspaper “journalism” is just some no-hoper trawling through Facebook and Reddit and turning other people’s observations into “news”. And all without the least attempt to expand or follow-up.
A recent one in the UK red top Daily Mirror waxed lyrical about two men, new to the neighbourhood, who mowed their lawns naked. Only the Reddit handles were used, no location was specified but the spelling of “neighborhood” gave away it wasn’t a UK story.
It’s a sad commentary on today’s media that they think repeating unchecked stories from social media qualifies as “news”. But as the old saying goes, we get the newspapers we deserve.
In this litigious, hyper-sensitive world, I think it's poor judgement to answer the door naked outside of a nudist-friendly environment like a resort or a naturist zone like Cap d'Agde. If I were a delivery person, even though I am a lifelong nudist, I would be highly suspicious of the nude person's motives in being nude in what I would consider an inappropriate situation. Come on, show some common sense and some courtesy. Throwing on something to answer the door is not a hardship or even an inconvenience. What in the world are you trying to accomplish? Pick your battles - this is not worth it.
I agree with you. There is a big difference in expecting someone to show up at your door, and you appear nude, or not expecting someone to show up at your door and you appear nude. If I'm expecting a delivery, I'm properly attired. But that surprise knock on the door, I may be in a semi-dressed state, not on purpose, more often than not, I'm nude at home. Do I have to keep clothing near my door just in case someone knocks on my door? In today's world, I better.
At age 66, I really don't care if a drone snaps a photo of me and it gets published in a tabloid. But I'm self-employed, don't have to worry about a corporate giant finding out I like being clothesfree. And in a sane world, no one would have to worry. But that's not the world we live in. Yet.
I'm with you on that. A young nudie in a textile culture might not want nudes of them posted where friends family and colleagues might see. People have lost jobs and been sexually harassed over this sort of thing. Nudies often don't have a choice over living in shame based communities.
I am retired and old enough not to worry.
As a lifelong nudist I always have a "Shower Wrap" with velcro closure in case I need to answer the front door. I don't want people angry at me for being a nudist, I want them to at least accept it and by not forcing it on people I am more likely to achieve that
Regarding the well written May open forum, Holding back comment and reserving judgement until all details are known is the wisest course.
But in any case, I think that anyone regardless of gender, or non gender, who wilfully throws themselves in front of another in a situation that knowingly, very well may put that person I’ll at ease is bullying them and being taking advantage.
The action has no relation to naturalism nor to nudity it’s just some ignorant, rude, selfish, thoughtless brute taking advantage.
Let’s just turn our collective head’s, ignore them and move on……..
Sometimes being excessively militant hurts more than it helps.
This isn't like the WNBR where there's lots of people around and space for separation and you *expect* naked people. She would have been alone and on his doorstep and easily taken advantage of. She's NOT a nudist and cannot be expected to think like one. Probably defines close proximity with a nude man as a sexual situation. This incident showed a lack of empathy and an excess of narcissism on his part.
I think DoorDash is out of line too. People should not be required to work in situations they find fearful or objectionable. Hand the delivery off to someone who doesn't care.
Nudism did not "take a hit" because this is not nudism, unless everyone on the planet becomes a nudist simply by not wearing clothes at any given moment.
Both of the leading stories rest on the act of seeing. The Door Dash driver did not want to see a nude Human. The drone is "seeing" on behalf of its pilot. Why have we allowed the actions of others (seeing) to govern how we choose to dress? They choose where to look, so if they don't like what they see they can look elsewhere or grow a spine and realize that there is no harm in simply seeing a nude body. What harm will come to them from seeing a nude Human body?
It is how we act, how we behave that matters. If the guy answers the door nude and makes sexual advances toward the delivery driver, *THAT* is a problem, but that's between those two; it does not haul in all nudist and naturist organizations around the world, that's sophistry. He could just as easily have been fully clothed with his genitals hanging out his zipper--would that impugn the entire clothing industry??
I don't see any value in doing things I know will generate negative feelings in other people.
I may like death metal music. There's nothing inherently wrong with death metal music but I know people who dislike it. Why they dislike it or if it is rational to dislike it does not matter. I'll wear headphones or crank the volume way down rather than irritate the people I meet with music they might not like. That's the functional equivalent to wearing a towel. I'm not hiding anything, I'm being considerate of their feelings. If I learn it doesn't bother them, I'll let the music rip.
There may be other times and places where I would go naked and not care who it bothers. It just won't be in such close proximity. I suspect the woman in question would not freak out so much about seeing a naked guy at a distance and where she could avoid contact.
Time for the rompssss 🦶
Wishing you too a Happy May.. Such incidents impacts naturism lifestyle in negative way. As you have said rightly the people who intends to embrace this awesome lifestyle may not opt for it..