Olive Dell suddenly showed up on a listing service for $6.59 million dollars. The owners said it was just for the purpose of market evaluation and not actually an attempt to sell it. Personally I think they are exploring the idea to see if anyone bites.
I know the word "nudist" seems to have fallen out of favour but I still maintain that a large percentage of the general population has no idea what a "naturist" is and thinks it's a synonym for naturalist. Even some people in "the community" say naturalist. And presumably you could be a naturist --- that is, someone who communes with nature --- while still wearing clothes. At least nudist is clear on that point. Anyway, I think I'm fighting a losing battle here.
I always enjoy your columns, Jillian, and look forward to their arrival! 😁
You're right about that. Naturist/naturalist are too similar for Joe news reader to distinguish without an explanation that they aren't ever going to read. We're stuck with nudist.
I can see court documents in the near future for DeAnza Springs Resort previous and/or current owners depending on the conditions of the sale and lease agreements that were implemented by the previous owner.
Thank you for sharing this. I am reluctant to comment on the news article I referred to at this point, except to wonder why they didn't reach out to Pasha or at least say they made an effort to get a comment from him. I am waiting to hear back from him now.
While I understand it is seriously disappointing and frustrating to naturists who have become comfortable frequenting a specific location to have that location close. In this case I get a financial imperative to change the social focus of the business. If this is true, perhaps the owners of some of the lots in the complex who are there to enjoy the naturalism aspects it offers, start another group/community that could offer more options at lower costs to more members and rebuild.
The prime focus is communal, total comfort without clothes and the prime goal would be to able to expand opportunities to more people at affordable costs…. Sounds easy eh!
Yeah. Property is insanely expensive out here. DeAnza was WAY out there and still went for $4.5 million. Two miles north of the Mexican border in the deep desert, half way between San Diego and Arizona. I'm pretty sure there will not be a replacement.
Elysium, Mystic Oaks, Silver Valley Sun Club, and others, and now DeAnza, all gone. One hopes it would increase demand for the remaining clubs and make them more secure.
What has flourished are clothing optional resort hotels in and around Palm Springs;. 18 of them, including several exclusively for gay men. That doesn't help a lot if you don't live anywhere near Palm Springs and they aren't the kind of places you could live at full time. Many of the resorts are more adult-oriented than a typical nudist resort. Plus there are a few clothing optional Bed and Breakfasts scattered around.
I think most nudists are okay with their bodies. Some are not completely okay with their body and do various things to improve their appearance. As you can see, cis-het males, gays and boomers have the most body confidence. That explains the distribution of people at nudist resorts.
Now "naturalists" isn't synonymous with "naturists." But news media often confuse/conflate the two terms, so I don't know if you are trying for a play on words.
Olive Dell suddenly showed up on a listing service for $6.59 million dollars. The owners said it was just for the purpose of market evaluation and not actually an attempt to sell it. Personally I think they are exploring the idea to see if anyone bites.
https://www.crexi.com/properties/1198621/california-olive-dell-rv-park
Re: Naturalist
I know the word "nudist" seems to have fallen out of favour but I still maintain that a large percentage of the general population has no idea what a "naturist" is and thinks it's a synonym for naturalist. Even some people in "the community" say naturalist. And presumably you could be a naturist --- that is, someone who communes with nature --- while still wearing clothes. At least nudist is clear on that point. Anyway, I think I'm fighting a losing battle here.
I always enjoy your columns, Jillian, and look forward to their arrival! 😁
You're right about that. Naturist/naturalist are too similar for Joe news reader to distinguish without an explanation that they aren't ever going to read. We're stuck with nudist.
I can see court documents in the near future for DeAnza Springs Resort previous and/or current owners depending on the conditions of the sale and lease agreements that were implemented by the previous owner.
Regarding Nudism.TV, we have run several articles, including this one in June: https://freemannoone.substack.com/p/beyond-the-controversy
Thank you for sharing this. I am reluctant to comment on the news article I referred to at this point, except to wonder why they didn't reach out to Pasha or at least say they made an effort to get a comment from him. I am waiting to hear back from him now.
While I understand it is seriously disappointing and frustrating to naturists who have become comfortable frequenting a specific location to have that location close. In this case I get a financial imperative to change the social focus of the business. If this is true, perhaps the owners of some of the lots in the complex who are there to enjoy the naturalism aspects it offers, start another group/community that could offer more options at lower costs to more members and rebuild.
The prime focus is communal, total comfort without clothes and the prime goal would be to able to expand opportunities to more people at affordable costs…. Sounds easy eh!
Yeah. Property is insanely expensive out here. DeAnza was WAY out there and still went for $4.5 million. Two miles north of the Mexican border in the deep desert, half way between San Diego and Arizona. I'm pretty sure there will not be a replacement.
Elysium, Mystic Oaks, Silver Valley Sun Club, and others, and now DeAnza, all gone. One hopes it would increase demand for the remaining clubs and make them more secure.
What has flourished are clothing optional resort hotels in and around Palm Springs;. 18 of them, including several exclusively for gay men. That doesn't help a lot if you don't live anywhere near Palm Springs and they aren't the kind of places you could live at full time. Many of the resorts are more adult-oriented than a typical nudist resort. Plus there are a few clothing optional Bed and Breakfasts scattered around.
Nudity Confidence?
I’m a bit confused or is it just a slow news (nudes) week?
Is being confident with one’s true nude self a real concern for most naturalists
Depends on how you define confidence.
I think most nudists are okay with their bodies. Some are not completely okay with their body and do various things to improve their appearance. As you can see, cis-het males, gays and boomers have the most body confidence. That explains the distribution of people at nudist resorts.
Now "naturalists" isn't synonymous with "naturists." But news media often confuse/conflate the two terms, so I don't know if you are trying for a play on words.