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Of New Year's Eve parties, and 'purists' and 'swingers'
Happy New Year, everyone!
Did you party hardy last night? I imagine there were some great New Year’s Eve bashes in the global nudism/naturism community. Did you play host to one or attend one? If so, do tell, please . . .
New Year’s Eve is probably primo party time as well for swingers who also identify as nudists. How many of you consider yourselves to be swingers? Did you party last night with like-minded individuals?
So, why am I talking about swingers in this first post of 2023?
Two reasons: to throw something out for discussion here, and to point you to an excellent piece of journalism about the state of nudism in Florida, which also discusses the schism there between “purists” and “partiers,” a.k.a. swingers. As a media watchdog here, we are often critical of fluffy click bait pretending to be naturism reporting. So, it is a rare pleasure to be able to recommend this lengthy report posted on documentjournal.com: In Pasco County, Florida—Nudist Capital, USA—the body politic is on fully display.
I’ll venture out onto a limb and offer my opinion here: Live and let live. Swinger nudists have a right to be themselves. Just as we are all naked in our natural state, we are also all sexual beings — as one member of this forum has reminded us time and again. It’s nobody else’s business if consenting adult nudists are swingers, too.
But this is your monthly forum to talk about all things nudism, naturism and related subjects, so I’ll leave it to you now.
What’s on your mind?
A reminder: Guest articles are welcome here. If you would like to submit one, let us know in the comment section here.
Once again, best wishes for you and yours in 2023.
Jillian
January open forum
For what they are worth, here are my confused thoughts.
I think the association between nudity and sexuality exists everywhere. If it did not, places like Cap d'Age wouldn't exist.
Taking off your clothes to have sex becomes a conditioned reflex. So is seeing a nude person as sexual. Even if you've never had sex, you become conditioned by those around you. In the absence of contrarian experience, the association will remain. That association will not go away until they see so many people in the nude who are not associated with sex that the reflex goes extinct.
Telling people that it is not sexual is of extremely limited benefit. It doesn't break the conditioned response.
https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-extinction-2795176
That isn't going to happen any time soon. Right now, Britain is about the only place where it conceivably could. There are more than enough nudists in Britain to make public nudity commonplace and beak the connection but the social penalties are still strong enough to hold.
Nudists continue to associate nonsexual nudity with people who aren't nudists - or nudity in non-nudist public areas - as evil exhibitionism. Regardless of the nudie's intent, obviously those textiles folks are looking at them sexually. And the thoughts they project into the other person's mind matter.
We close the closet door and lock it behind us.
We've had some very interesting responses here. The consensus: "swinging" is an affront to naturism for various reasons.
But what if self-defined nudists who also engage in group sex, partner swapping and the like during social nudism events didn't define themselves as "swingers"?
(If anybody sees this comment and responds, I will have a follow-up question. Otherwise, I'll follow it up in a new post.)